I have my brother and mother in town this week for Thanksgiving, which has meant very little time for me to catch up on the cool PWE from Jeff, the massive Brewers mailing from Cynical Buddha, or the gobs of great & cheap cards I picked up at my local show on Sunday. For that matter, I also haven't had the chance to scan much of anything from the box of random stuff that my brother brought down for me. It even included an uncut sheet of cards from the 1984 Nestle set!
When I did have a few minutes, though, I scanned most of the things that I wanted to share. In the spirit of sharing and Thanksgiving, here's a great oddball set.
Nobis is a member of the College Football Hall of Fame, and for good reason. He enjoyed an incredible three years with the Texas Longhorns. He was a two-time All-American, a three-time all-Southwest Conference player (in the years before freshman eligibility), and was a starter for Darrell Royal as both a linebacker and as a guard. In those positions, he finished seventh in the Heisman Trophy voting.
Here in Atlanta, Tommy Nobis is also a legend. Nobis was the first player ever drafted by the Atlanta Falcons for their debut season in 1966 as the first pick overall. In a weird reflection of the times, the 1966 Draft took place on November 27, 1965. He was also the first selection of the Houston Oilers of the AFL, leading astronaut Frank Borman to say from Gemini 7 that his message to Earth was to "tell Nobis to sign with Houston." He capped his rookie year by being named the NFL Rookie of the Year and to the Pro Bowl. He still holds the record for most NFL tackles in a season with 294 combined tackles. His number was retired by the Falcons.
After his career ended, he stayed in Atlanta and founded the Tommy Nobis Center -- a center for youths and adults with disabilities to receive job training and employment services.
Salient to my discussion is that Nobis was also an entrepreneur. Back in 1978 and according to Frank Moiger (the person I bought this from), Nobis help organize the 1st Annual Atlanta Sports Collectors Sports Card Convention. As part of that convention, a set of 24 cards was printed for the guys who appeared and signed autographs. That included Nobis and these guys too:
In addition to these Braves, also appearing were Gene Oliver, Fred Haney, Denny LeMaster, Ken Johnson (who just passed away this week and is still the only pitcher to lose a game in which he pitched a 9-inning no-hitter), Lee Maye, Denis Menke, Felix Millan, Felipe Alou, Frank Bolling, Tony Cloninger, Ty Cline, Johnny Sain, Pat Jarvis, and two Yankees -- Johnny Mize and Bob Turley.
I knew of this set's existence when I went about putting my Joe Adcock Checklist together. I paid $20 for this set, which is about right as best I can tell from eBay when you figure in the willingness to pay a little bit more to help support people you know who organize baseball card shows.
Granted, Hall's Nostalgia -- a name I don't think I've heard since reading Baseball Digest in the 1970s and 1980s -- is trying to get $19.99 plus $3.99 shipping for the Nobis Card alone (and it looks like their eBay photo was taken in an asphalt parking lot), but there is a complete set available for around $15 if you're interested.
Finally, as today is a day to give thanks, I want to thank every one of you who reads my blog, who has sent me cards, who has received cards from me, or even who are still waiting to get cards from me. Without you guys and gals, I probably would have gone through my cards the first time around and decided not to fool with them. Instead, I now have a great way to spend my time with people who are as passionate (or more passionate) about a great hobby as I am.
Thank you one and all, and have a great Thanksgiving!
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Thursday, November 26, 2015
Friday, November 14, 2014
Milwaukee Braves from the 50s, 60s, 70s, 90s, and 10s
Card shows can be hit or miss. Sometimes, the show contains rich veins of oddballs, lesser-known sets, and good condition commons from 50 years ago at a reasonable price. Other times, it feels like everyone decided to bring their 1988 Fleer and 1989 Topps to the show. Each of those has its positives and negatives, of course (if all I could find were those '88 Fleer and '89 Topps, I'd pick up the cards I still need from both of those sets and leave after spending $2...that can be a positive, I suppose).
My most recent card show visit was more like the first than the second, and, to be fair, that is usually the case. At the first table at which I stopped on getting to the show, the prices were a bit higher than I might otherwise pay -- a lot of 25 cent cards, which doesn't break the bank but add up pretty quickly as well as some vintage cards that ran higher and even into the hundreds of dollars.
I stayed away from that high-end stuff. I will have to go there eventually, when I'm further down the road on my Braves collections and am looking for that Hank Aaron 1954 Topps to complete a team set. Hopefully, at that point, I can still find a good deal.
Anyway, the first group of cards that I sat down to flip through was a set called The 1960s that TCMA put out in two series -- one in 1978 and one in 1981. All of the cards here -- and the ones I put up in my trade bait -- were from Series I in 1978.
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| Joe Torre |
But, Torre played just three seasons with Atlanta before the Braves sent him to the Cardinals for fellow Hall of Famer Orlando Cepeda. Bad trade. Cepeda was 4 years older than Torre and played just 401 games in 4 season for the Braves, while Torre -- at the age of 28 -- was just getting to his best years (including his MVP year in 1971).
Anyway, I count him as a Milwaukee Brave for my purposes in this set.
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| Ty Cline |
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| Ken Johnson |
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| Mack Jones |
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| Gary Kolb |
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| Frank Lary |
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| Jesse Gonder |
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| Ed Bailey |
As you can see, that was a weird find to me. So many one-year wonders -- many of whom probably don't have many or any other cards as Braves. Thankfully, this same seller also had some "true" vintage.
For instance, how about these two 1957 Topps cards, mine for $1 each?
Gene Conley is one of the few people in history (only?) who can say that he won a World Series title and an NBA title. Conley was on the World Series winning Braves team in 1957, and then, in his spare time, he won three NBA Titles in 1959, 1960, and 1961 with the Boston Celtics. This amazing 6'8" athlete is 84 years old and still is with us.
Frank Torre, unfortunately, is no longer alive. Frank being a Brave almost certainly led the team to sign his younger brother Joe and probably led Joe to signing.
This was the most expensive card of the day at $6. It's from 1958 and shows the World Series winning Milwaukee Braves. Part of me thinks that I could have done a little better on the price, but that was down already from $10, so at least I did get that much knocked off.
These two cards are both from 1960 Topps. Other than the 14-year-old girl style of coloring every other letter, I could have been convinced easily that the Chuck Dressen card came from 1965 Topps with that pennant and logo and all.
As for Charlie Lau, anyone who could be credited by George Brett as being the man who taught him to hit is a good addition to anyone's collection.

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Speaking of 1965 Topps, these three cards together cost me $2. Klimchock played a total of 318 games in the major leagues spread over 12 seasons. He spent all or a part of 4 seasons in Milwaukee and made a total of 76 appearances.
I've mentioned Fischer before, I believe. I think he may still be alive in the mountains in North Georgia in Hiawassee.
Oliver was a Midwestern boy whom the Cardinals signed first before trading him to the Braves with Bob Sadowski in return for one of my player collection guys, Lew Burdette, in 1963. He had the ignominious distinction of being traded to the Philadelphia Phillies by the Atlanta Braves so that the Braves could get baseball immortal Bob Uecker.
Three more modern cards also made their way into my Milwaukee Braves collection. There's the 2012 Hank Aaron Allen & Ginter card along with a 2001 reprint of the 1965 Topps Aaron and a 1999 reprint of the 1957 Topps Aaron, showing him with the reversed negative.
So, not that you asked, but I do have reasons why I do not include Aaron as a player collection. First off, his cards are more expensive, for the most part, than anything of Spahn or Mathews.
Granted, the 1952 Topps Mathews -- which was both his rookie card and was the last card of the 1952 set (making it susceptible to damage from rubber-banding in a fashion that has inflated the prices for the #1 card, Wisconsin native Andy Pafko) -- is pretty damn expensive (check this one out: PSA "Authentic" as altered [I think trimmed] is listed on Amazon by Dean's Cards for the low, low price of $1,380!). So I'll have enough super-expensive cards to chase for my team set without adding the need to get TWO of every Aaron.
The other reason is more personal and simpler: Hank Aaron in my mind is an Atlanta Brave. Yes, he spent more years in MIlwaukee as a Brave than in Atlanta, but Hank is an Atlanta guy. He lives here. He has a BMW dealership here. He's been a part of the Atlanta front office for many, many years. He's active in the community here in Atlanta. Both Mathews and Spahn are guys who are "Milwaukee" Braves, and Burdette and Adcock similarly are guys I associate with those Milwaukee teams of the late 1950s. But when I think of Hank, I think of the homer off Al Downing. I think of Turner Field being located on Hank Aaron Drive. I think of Atlanta. I guess that's a bias of living in the Atlanta area for over 19 years now, but that's the way it is.
I did get one more card for my Braves team set. It's my buddy, the bad-hitting Bob Buhl, and it's a wood-grain TV set of him:
I have always liked the 1955 Bowman for the "Color TV" design. Maybe I just have a thing for wood-grained paneling, since that was all the rage in the 1970s as a cheap way to cover up a crappy drywall job. I mean, I am partial to both the 1963 and 1987 Topps sets too. Hmm.
Anyway, this Buhl card -- which looks like he is wearing lipstick, rouge, but that he forgot to manscape his unibrow -- set me back $2. I couldn't just leave it on the table at that price.
I'm starting to find that I like the vintage cards and photos of those players from the 1960s since it gives me a reason to find out who these guys were. I hope you've enjoyed this walk through as well.
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